Derek Carr and Kyler Murray have been on opposite sides of 23 real dynasty trades.
Not simulations and not a calculator lining up two numbers. Every one of them is a completed trade from a public Sleeper league, graded at the player values that were current on the day it happened.
None of them were a straight one-for-one. Every time these two crossed, something else was attached to close it.
This is the part a calculator cannot tell you. In 5 of these deals exactly one side had to attach something extra, and 5 of those 5 times it was the Derek Carr side (0 the other way). The side that keeps having to add is the side holding the lesser asset, so the market has been treating Kyler Murray as the more valuable of the two.
| Date | Margin | Went with Derek Carr | Went with Kyler Murray |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2024-10-29 | -25% | Xavier Worthy, Cooper Kupp, Jordan Love, 1 more, 1 1st | Marvin Harrison, Keon Coleman, Diontae Johnson, 1 more |
| 2024-09-20 | +7% | Ja'Marr Chase | Jayden Reed |
| 2024-03-20 | -8% | Amon-Ra St. Brown, Pat Freiermuth | Dalton Kincaid, 1 3rd |
| 2023-09-12 | -25% | Travis Kelce, Mike Evans | Tee Higgins |
| 2023-07-28 | -1% | Tyreek Hill, DJ Moore | 1 1st, 1 2nd |
| 2023-07-25 | +16% | Breece Hall | Jahan Dotson, 1 2nd |
| 2023-07-10 | +34% | A.T. Perry, Austin Ekeler, Christian Kirk, 1 more | Javonte Williams, Romeo Doubs, Josh Downs, 1 more, 1 2nd, 1 3rd |
| 2023-07-05 | +39% | Saquon Barkley, Allen Lazard, Tee Higgins | Javonte Williams, Evan Hull, 1 3rd |
| 2023-06-20 | -37% | Deebo Samuel | Kayshon Boutte |
| 2023-05-04 | +34% | Michael Thomas, Christian McCaffrey, 1 3rd | Colt McCoy, Devin Singletary, Isaiah Spiller, 1 2nd |
Read each row as: Derek Carr, plus anything in the third column, was traded for Kyler Murray plus anything in the fourth. An em dash means that side sent nobody else. Margin is the value gap at that day’s prices from the side that received Derek Carr; positive means that side came out ahead.
Across all 23, the whole-deal value gap runs -10.5% from the side that received Derek Carr, so the side ending up with Kyler Murray has generally come out ahead on face value. That measures the entire trade, every piece included, not these two players against each other.
A calculator answers “is Derek Carr for Kyler Murray fair” by subtracting one number from another, and it gives every manager in your league the same answer. That tells you nothing about whether the trade closes. What closes it is whether one side has to attach a piece, and which side that usually is. The 23 deals above are the record of what leagues actually agreed to when these two were on the table together.
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